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Started by Creeping_Death, December 18, 2006, 08:35:25 AM

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Creeping_Death

The love you withhold is the pain you carry.


pkk

#1
Look at the US Airforce, do you know how they did bring thier nukes home from europe?

The USA had a program for bunker-busting low-yield nuclear weapons, it was cancelled in Okober 2005.

The force de frappe is also upgrading thier seabased nuclear missiles by EADS.

Russia still wants to sell nuclear technology, like the Germany did with Brazil and Argentina; France with South Africa, Israel and Iraq; Soviet Union in Egypt and Lybia; Canada in Republic China (Taiwan), Algeria and Argentina, ...

BTW, 350 miles next to you:
http://www.honeywell.com/sites/kcp/mission_history.htm
QuoteAt the Kansas City Plant, we provide:

  • Eight-five percent of the components that go into a nuclear weapon, relying on only six percent of the NNSA's budget
  • Weapons support from concept through production and on to retirement
  • More than 100,000 parts—ranging from nuts and bolts to complex radars—annually
  • More than 61,000 years of workforce manufacturing knowledge

Creeping_Death

We did bring our nukes home from Europe, but if you did notice...they did not end up in the hands of foreign nations. :wink:

We scraped the public effort to build the low-yield tactical nukes, and then put it on the Black Ops projects. Do not think for one second that we stoped the effort. :lol:

We need those underground low-yield nukes to blow up extraterrestrial underground bases! :shock:

So, everyone signs agreements to not ploiferate nuclear weapons, and we are the only ones apparently honoring the agreement...yet another international treaty left in shambles. :roll:

-CD
The love you withhold is the pain you carry.


pkk

Quote from: Creeping_Death on December 18, 2006, 06:41:47 PM
they did not end up in the hands of foreign nations. :wink:
No, DU is dispose in the hills of Kosovo, Iraq, Kuwait, 747s, ... ;)

CowTown

Quote from: Creeping_Death on December 18, 2006, 06:41:47 PM.yet another international treaty left in shambles. :roll:
-CD
Oh boy!
Like the US honors international treaty's  :roll:
Isnt there some little military base (in Cuba) that the USA basicaly uses to trow out international law? (even US law?)

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm

Your probably not aware that your country still uses these too.....so much for international law.(again!)
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=20514&Cr=disarmament&Cr1=cluster

Those are just a few.

Pehaps once Bush gets put before a UN court (as if) we will really find out who the world criminals are. (hehehe)
Im sure that will make the Hussein trials look small. :wink:

Of course I mean that in the most neighborly way.
:beer:


Creeping_Death

#5
Well, I'll be the last person you'll ever see condoning any international treaty. I hate the international system and think the UN should be banished to Europe.

That was not my point.

Here is three points to your comments cow:

Cow:
"Like the US honors international treaty's"

With my initial topic....why on earth should we? No one else is!! What are we the world's chumps?? :finger:

Cow:
"Your probably not aware that your country still uses these too.....so much for international law.(again!)"

Then you point to cluster bombs, mines, and similar military weaponry. This is our defense: WE NEVER SIGNED THE BAN TREATY

How can we be held to honor an agreement we never agreed to honor?


3. and the most important of all: It is against our constitution to adhear to any foreign law or mandate, illegal to pay tax to foriegn entity...all the agreements and dues paid thus far are in fact illegal and thus void.



PKK:
"No, DU is dispose in the hills of Kosovo, Iraq, Kuwait, 747s, ..."


Don't forget Europe and NATO :tank:

And that is not proliferation by the way PKK, you know this...that is dispersment :P

-CD
The love you withhold is the pain you carry.


CowTown

Quote from: Creeping_Death on December 18, 2006, 09:02:39 PM
No one else is!! What are we the world's chumps?? :finger:

Ok sure, I was under the impression that the US wants to be seen as the good guy in the world.
Good guys play by the rules, no matter what....thems the rules.
Honourable countrys of the world honor the Geneva conventions, unfortunatly the US no longer falls into this catagory.

Quote from: Creeping_Death
Then you point to cluster bombs, mines, and similar military weaponry.
This is our defense: WE NEVER SIGNED THE BAN TREATY

How can we be held to honor an agreement we never agreed to honor?

Fair enough, the rest of the world will do the right thing without you..it seems.

Quote from: Creeping_Death
3. and the most important of all: It is against our constitution to adhear to any foreign law or mandate, illegal to pay tax to foriegn entity...all the agreements and dues paid thus far are in fact illegal and thus void.

Sorry I dont see the relivence here...the US will face the world for what its done in Iraq, its just a matter of time.


pkk

Quote from: Creeping_Death on December 18, 2006, 09:02:39 PM
Well, I'll be the last person you'll ever see condoning any international treaty. I hate the international system and think the UN should be banished to Europe.
The bilateral system sucks more, to many treaties, to many special rules.

Maybe everyone has thier own human rights. China will have thier own, we can't blame them. Arab world have thier own, we can't blame them, the same. Your country has only 50 different bilateral treaties about human rights.

You need international treaties, all agree exactly the same. That large group is able to force others to some sign it, too. Otherwise you will be the bad boy.

Creeping_Death

Cow:
"Ok sure, I was under the impression that the US wants to be seen as the good guy in the world.
Good guys play by the rules, no matter what....thems the rules.
Honourable countrys of the world honor the Geneva conventions, unfortunatly the US no longer falls into this catagory."

You were under the wrong impression. You listen too much to our politicians, who are nothing but prostitutes for the CFR and other international organizations. And for the record; the Geneva convention is the stupidest treaty I've ever heard of, I couldn't possibly be inclined to go along with such an ignorant notion.

Cow:
"Fair enough, the rest of the world will do the right thing without you..it seems."

Apparently to you the rest of the world means Europe? Cause no one else abides to this rule.

Cow:
"Sorry I dont see the relivence here...the US will face the world for what its done in Iraq, its just a matter of time."

Do you REALLY believe that?


PKK:
"The bilateral system sucks more, to many treaties, to many special rules.

Maybe everyone has thier own human rights. China will have thier own, we can't blame them. Arab world have thier own, we can't blame them, the same. Your country has only 50 different bilateral treaties about human rights.

You need international treaties, all agree exactly the same. That large group is able to force others to some sign it, too. Otherwise you will be the bad boy."

My country is messed up right now in its treaties. When the Council on Foreign Relations, an international organization, mandates our foreign policy [which is in fact very illegal], we get what we see today....a big pile of shit.

I don't like it any more than you folks. But what I think you guys fail to see is that the problems are coming from these international groups. This is a main reason why I am so anti-international. I hope you guys can see what is happening.

-CD
The love you withhold is the pain you carry.


pkk

Quote from: Creeping_Death on December 19, 2006, 02:26:22 AM
My country is messed up right now in its treaties. When the Council on Foreign Relations, an international organization, mandates our foreign policy [which is in fact very illegal], we get what we see today....a big pile of shit.
Remove veto powers from security concil. ;)

Quote from: Creeping_Death on December 19, 2006, 02:26:22 AM
I don't like it any more than you folks. But what I think you guys fail to see is that the problems are coming from these international groups. This is a main reason why I am so anti-international. I hope you guys can see what is happening.

These groups aren't 100% under the control of your goverment, that's the problem. ;)

November 29th 1990, during vote for UN Resolution 678:

The Yemeni ambassador put down his hand after voting against the resolution, the U.S. ambassador was at his side saying "that will be the most expensive no vote you ever cast." The remark was picked up on an open U.N. radio microphone, and broadcast throughout the building and ultimately around the world. So three days later, when the U.S. cut its entire aid budget to Yemen, the world took notice.

Resolution was adopted by 12 votes to 2 (Cuba (they do always vote against war) and Yemen), with 1 abstention (China).

Creeping_Death

PKK:
"These groups aren't 100% under the control of your goverment, that's the problem."

PKK, The CFR divides and conquers. They create wars to facilitate their own greedy agendas, which is the enslavment of the usa, europe, and the rest of the world...but you wish for them to take over all. And what picture for the world do you see where wars are manufactured for profit. You think it is bad now?

If you in Europe seek these international organizations to illegally sieaze control of my nation, then you have just declared war on my peoples. You declare war on us, but accuse when we go to war. And when we go to war, it is implemented by these very international organizations! Make sense!! Do you love peace or death??? Make your stand!

-CD
The love you withhold is the pain you carry.


pkk

Right CD.

Germany should declare war on EU, because we are unable to keep our self high sticked conditions of Maastricht Treaty.
WE DON'T WANT TO PAY PENALTIES FOR INCEASING OUR STATE DEBTS, TIME FOR WAR ACROSS EUROPE!!! :tank:

Creeping_Death

#12
What does the EU have to do with USA or any international organization?

You missed my point I think :?


Oh hey, Germany is getting the biggest shaft out of the EU deal, so, I guess a future war is probably not too far off the mark. :wink:

-CD
The love you withhold is the pain you carry.


pkk

Quote from: Creeping_Death on December 19, 2006, 07:21:39 PM
What does the EU have to do with USA or any international organization?

You missed my point I think :?

I don't think so. I just adopt your thinkings on Germany. ;)

CowTown

Quote from: Creeping_Death on December 19, 2006, 02:26:22 AM
You were under the wrong impression. You listen too much to our politicians, who are nothing but prostitutes for the CFR and other international organizations. And for the record; the Geneva convention is the stupidest treaty I've ever heard of, I couldn't possibly be inclined to go along with such an ignorant notion.
I wonder why the US signed it then? Obviously you dont see that the US is not trusted anywhere because of this.

Quote from: Creeping_Death
Apparently to you the rest of the world means Europe? Cause no one else abides to this rule.
So now Canada, Australia, Sweden ect are now European?

Quote from: Creeping_Death
Do you REALLY believe that?
Oh wait 9-11 already happend didnt it  :lol:
Round 2 is comming, its just a matter of time...

Quote from: Creeping_Death
This is a main reason why I am so anti-international. I hope you guys can see what is happening.
Yep we see whats going on,
The citizenship of the US can, has and, continues to be dupped by the media via your government.

Go wave a flag, you'll feel much better after that... :finger: